{"id":2420,"date":"2017-01-21T22:15:26","date_gmt":"2017-01-22T06:15:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/?p=2420"},"modified":"2023-01-01T13:14:32","modified_gmt":"2023-01-01T21:14:32","slug":"ec-017-applying-lean-and-green-at-plywerk-with-kjell-van-zoen-and-david-hall","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/ec-017-applying-lean-and-green-at-plywerk-with-kjell-van-zoen-and-david-hall\/","title":{"rendered":"EC 017: Applying Lean and Green at Plywerk with Kjell Van Zoen and David Hall"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_3166\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-2420-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/earthconsultants\/s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com\/earth-consultants-audio-podcast\/EC+017_+Applying+Lean+and+Green+at+P.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/earthconsultants\/s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com\/earth-consultants-audio-podcast\/EC+017_+Applying+Lean+and+Green+at+P.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/earthconsultants\/s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com\/earth-consultants-audio-podcast\/EC+017_+Applying+Lean+and+Green+at+P.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/earthconsultants\/s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com\/earth-consultants-audio-podcast\/EC+017_+Applying+Lean+and+Green+at+P.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/?powerpress_pinw=2420-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/earthconsultants\/s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com\/earth-consultants-audio-podcast\/EC+017_+Applying+Lean+and+Green+at+P.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"EC+017_+Applying+Lean+and+Green+at+P.mp3\">Download<\/a> | <a href=\"#\" class=\"powerpress_link_e\" title=\"Embed\" onclick=\"return powerpress_show_embed('2420-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Embed<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_embed_box\" id=\"powerpress_embed_2420-podcast\" style=\"display: none;\"><input id=\"powerpress_embed_2420-podcast_t\" type=\"text\" value=\"&lt;iframe width=&quot;320&quot; height=&quot;30&quot; src=&quot;http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/?powerpress_embed=2420-podcast&amp;amp;powerpress_player=mediaelement-audio&quot; title=&quot;Blubrry Podcast Player&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot;&gt;&lt;\/iframe&gt;\" onclick=\"javascript: this.select();\" onfocus=\"javascript: this.select();\" style=\"width: 70%;\" readOnly><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Summary<\/span><\/p>\n<p>In this podcast, I conduct my first interview, and it turned out great!<\/p>\n<p>I met up with lean consultant and former owner of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.plywerk.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Plywerk<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/ec-014-lean-and-green-workflow-improvement-the-8-wastes\/\">Kjell Van Zoen<\/a>, along with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/david-hall-695b1ab\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dr. David\u00a0E. Hall<\/a>, sustainability consultant for Plywerk and professor at Portland State University. We discuss how Kjell and\u00a0Dave worked together to make Plywerk more eco-conscious, and how Kjell connected lean concepts, systems thinking and permaculture into those efforts.<\/p>\n<p>We talk about the following topics:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Introductions and backgrounds<\/li>\n<li>Sustainability vs Eco-conscious<\/li>\n<li>Patagonia<\/li>\n<li>The Natural Step framework<\/li>\n<li>Replacement for bubble wrap<\/li>\n<li>Switch from plywood to bamboo<\/li>\n<li>Biomimicry and wood\u00a0glue<\/li>\n<li>Forest Stewardship Council (FSC) certification<\/li>\n<li>Which is better, shipping bamboo from China or trucking bamboo from within the US?<\/li>\n<li>Eco-conscious freezer paper experiments<\/li>\n<li>The Gold Mine book<\/li>\n<li>Lean and Green tours<\/li>\n<li>Permaculture Principles<\/li>\n<li>Employee engagement\n<ul>\n<li>Bike commuting tracker system<\/li>\n<li>Employee bike and walking incentives<\/li>\n<li>Recycling program<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Culture of Collaboration workshops<\/li>\n<li>Plywerk Manifesto<\/li>\n<li>Taiichi Ohno<\/li>\n<li>MLK Volunteer Day<\/li>\n<li>Changing and influencing vendors after Lean and Green transformation<\/li>\n<li>FSC vs SFI wood certification<\/li>\n<li>What happened to Plywerk?<\/li>\n<li>Next steps for Dave and Kjell<\/li>\n<li>The green economy and the Trump administration<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This interview is 90 minutes long, but I feel it will be worth your time to listen to the whole thing.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-2436 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"116\" height=\"116\" srcset=\"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen.jpg 300w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen-100x100.jpg 100w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen-150x150.jpg 150w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen-600x600.jpg 600w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen-160x160.jpg 160w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen-320x320.jpg 320w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/kjell-van-zoen-50x50.jpg 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 116px) 100vw, 116px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nIf you&#8217;d like to contact Kjell Van Zoen, you can reach him at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.VanZoen.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/www.VanZoen.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-2434 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"117\" height=\"117\" srcset=\"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh-300x300.jpg 300w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh-100x100.jpg 100w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh-600x600.jpg 600w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh-150x150.jpg 150w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh-160x160.jpg 160w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh-320x320.jpg 320w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh-50x50.jpg 50w, http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Dave-as-Van-Gogh.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 117px) 100vw, 117px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nIf you&#8217;d like to contact David Hall, you can reach him on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/david-hall-695b1ab\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">LinkedIn<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d like to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/contact-us\/\">hear your feedback<\/a> on this interview. Is this something you&#8217;d like me to do more of? What were your key takeaways?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.plywerk.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Plywerk<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>Videos about Plywerk (<a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/28252855\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Video #1<\/a>\u00a0| <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=CQTD6IfGl8E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Video #2<\/a>\u00a0| <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=d4kf35ID8G4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Video #3<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/issuu.com\/plywerk\/docs\/manifesto\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Plywerk Manifesto<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2iZj3YP\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Let My People Go Surfing: The Education of a Reluctant Businessman&#8211;Including 10 More Years of Business Unusual by Yvon Chouinard<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.patagonia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Patagonia<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/thenaturalstep.org\/approach\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Natural Step Framework<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>1\u2026 concentrations of substances from the earth\u2019s crust (such as fossil CO2 and heavy metals)<\/li>\n<li>2\u2026 concentrations of substances produced by society (such as antibiotics and endocrine disruptors)<\/li>\n<li>3\u2026 degradation by physical means (such as deforestation and draining of groundwater tables).<\/li>\n<li>4. And in that society there are no structural obstacles to people\u2019s health, influence, competence, impartiality and meaning.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/GeamiPaperPackaging\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Geami Paper Packaging<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/fsc.org\/en\/forest-managers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Forest Stewardship Council (FSC) certification<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2ki12da\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Toyota Production System: Beyond Large-Scale Production by Taiichi Ohno<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/breitenbush.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Breitenbush<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.permacultureintl.com\/jenny-pell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Permaculture Course Instructor (Jenny Pell)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20220402170841\/http:\/\/portland.gogreenconference.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Portland GoGreen Conference<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210422222520\/http:\/\/portland.gogreenconference.net\/program\/2014presentations\/Permaculture.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Presentation<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ERtuyyb0IxM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Video<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/jcwc.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Johnson Creek Watershed Council<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfiprogram.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sustainable Foresty Initiative (SFI) certification<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nativeperspectives.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Native Perspectives on Sustainability<\/a> (site from David&#8217;s dissertation)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Summary In this podcast, I conduct my first interview, and it turned out great! I met up with lean consultant and former owner of Plywerk, Kjell Van Zoen, along with Dr. David\u00a0E. Hall, sustainability consultant for Plywerk and professor at Portland State University. We discuss how Kjell and\u00a0Dave worked together to make Plywerk more eco-conscious,<\/p>\n<div class=\"more-link\">\n\t\t\t\t <a href=\"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/ec-017-applying-lean-and-green-at-plywerk-with-kjell-van-zoen-and-david-hall\/\" class=\"btn theme-btn\"><span>Continue Reading <\/span><i class=\"icofont-long-arrow-right\"><\/i><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[72,89,45,8,10,15],"tags":[105,114,109,111,106,107,112,113,110,108],"class_list":["post-2420","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-employee-engagement","category-kjell-van-zoen","category-podcast","category-raw-materials","category-solid-waste","category-transportation","tag-david-hall","tag-green-economy","tag-patagonia","tag-pdx-gogreen","tag-plywerk","tag-portland-state-university","tag-taiichi-ohno","tag-the-gold-mine","tag-the-natural-step","tag-vanzoen"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2420","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2420"}],"version-history":[{"count":19,"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2420\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4847,"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2420\/revisions\/4847"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2420"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2420"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/leansixsigmaenvironment.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2420"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}